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I think my friend ~herzeleid1995 touched on this pretty well in the comment I posted in my journal. So this journal here is going to be concerning fan fictions, and their viability as a genre of writing.

A lot of people have no respect for these types of writing,  but I also believe with good reason. Most people have butchered this form into something perverse, where the most they want is to inflict their own wants and devices into a storyline, giving little to no consideration for the characters, the storyline, the plot, etc...

Now, in my own opinion, fan fictions can be a viable art form, and a practical one. Consider the vignette; a very limited idea, take one suspended moment in time and then expand it, dissect it, see it from every dimension. With that little bare-bones concept, there is an endless line of things that can be done.

In my view, there are two forms of fan fictions, both of which are merely observations of the storyline, when it is followed down different paths. In one form, you introduce a different element into the plot mid story-arc. In the other, you create an entirely new plot line to happen before or after other events.

In the first form, you are simply conducting a "What If?" experiment. For instance, in one story I've read it asks the question "What if General Grievous killed off Chancellor Palpitine, bested Skywalker and Kenobi, and then came to lead the CIS after Dooku's passing?"

A novel question, which is the first step. The question of "What If?" must examine an element that would make an important, interesting change to the story. From there, it's a matter of examining the characters and the events and the world in which they live to see how time progresses differently. You can't make the world morph around as you will it, because there are still rules and you are still working with a pre-made storyline and characters.

Let's take a look at the average Naruto fan fiction, specifically, a ItaSaku paring. Firstly, that goes against any range of possibility of the story, but mainly, does that not defy who the characters are? If one wants to see the two together, then ask yourself "How would that happen?" And then from there, you can plausibly, respectably get to the question of "What If?"

In the second form, it is a matter of creating your own storyline, your own plots, and seeing how characters that were already made would act, how that world would be if such things happened. The difference is, in the first case you are asking the question of "What If?" as it pertains to the story arc in question, and to the characters at the moment. In this form you are creating a whole new story arc and saying, "With the progression of these characters so far, what now?"

In both cases there are rules. For one thing, characters do not magically change in nature or personality or action. An evil, maniacal, sadistic person cannot magically becoming loving, tender, and caring. People do not act that way, and in the words of some person who said these words, "Writing has to be believable, where reality does not."

There is always a step you can take to far. In fan fiction writing, you must be careful to regulate yourself, to be subtle and thoughtful. You have to be an artist, making art with substance, not just words that produce a short lived emotion. If you are good, if you are an artist, you can make drastic changes and never lose your audience or respect. If not, then feel free to oblige yourself, but it will be apparent that you are not making art.

With rules and regulation, careful thought, and a bit of talent, you could be on the way from the good beginnings of a good fan fic to the good beginnings of great art.
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:iconwhat-a-tweest:
S'alright, I understand. I myself haven't been on in my months, over ROTC and football and community service and yadda yadda college preparatory work...

I don't develop characters much before going into a story. Generally, I have a rough idea of what I want a character to be, then I think up a name, and from there I write the story. As the plot and ideas and morals blossom on me (usually I write the story before I figure out what the moral is), the character's motivations, attitudes, outlooks, so on become apparent by what they do, where they go, what they experience and how they deal with these things.

And if you mean a physical picture with which I base my character off, no. Before the story, I usually have little more than a basic idea of what purpose the character is going to play in the plot. Generally I have a plot before I have characters, and after the plot has been created i figure out what I need of what characters ie Who does what and grows how? What's the endgame? That's where the characters come from, except for a few archetypal characters like my villains that I use in most of my stories.

My advice is to spend a lot of time thinking about the plot. What's going to happen, and why does it matter to the character? What is this character going to do because of this? What's the motivation? That will form an attitude / outlook / motivation for your character, which will also help frame what kind of relationships your character will have, and what kind of background they come from. I also use their personalities to create an appearance. Like a really arrogant genius type has aquiline (bird-like) face. A hooked nose and small, always scrutinous eyes, and a bored face. He knows he's better than everyone else.

Relationships are important, I think. I'm not sure what you mean by favorites, but that seems more like a small detail. Relationships between characters will also help to show you who a character really is. If you have two people with varying personalities, look at how they differ, and because of that how they treat each other. That will create a dynamic of how your character deals with other people, and also it will create a dynamic for your dialogue and plot thereon.

Feel free to direct any other questions my way.

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:iconrayquaza101:
Hey tweet, sorry I haven't talked to you for a while, haven't been on DA very much over the past month. Back to school again. Joy....*sigh*. Loads of study seeing that its my last year. Anyways, I meant to ask you since you're probably the most experienced writer that I know, how much do you develop characters before you place them in a story? I've been working on characters over the past few weeks, and I have a good selection done, but for the most, it just went as far as describing their compelling need. I have a book about characterization which has a load of questions about developing most of the charaters exterior and some of their interior life. I suppose the questions that I'm asking are:
Do you use any pictures in the creation of your characters?
How much do you develop your characters before you place them in a story?
What is the general process that you follow when you create your characters?
(By the last question I meant, what method do you use to create characters?)
Do you incorporate things like relationships and favourites into your characters?
This is a big list I know, but I just want to get a little contrast on the methods of certain parts of writing. Characters was always a place I was weak in, while the rest of my writing was pretty good (If I say so myself). I just wanted to hear your method, so then I could maybe alter it to my own preference and methods. Unfortunately I might not be able to submit anything for the foreseeable future, I have LOADS of study and homework to do. Anyway, thanks for the assist. Seriously appreciated.
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thanks for the fav!!

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:iconwhat-a-tweest:
Wow, umm okay. Yeah, I'm putting it up today. It's good to know I have a reader.

Do you mind telling me what you thing of it?

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HI, JUZT 2 ZYA TAHT UR PAG IZ GRETA ZO UR ART AND IM WAITIN 4 THE NEZT PART OF TERRA INCOJNITA HOPE 2 ZEEIT ZOOON, ZEE YA
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:iconwhat-a-tweest:
Anytime, I particularly like what you did with the ram head, it makes for some very intimidating work.

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:iconwhat-a-tweest:
Jolly good.

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:iconclitoputimus:
AHA! found you.

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:iconwhat-a-tweest:
Right, then. Honestly though, while I can appreciate a good fight, I also like introspective writing, so the walls of thought text don't really bother me.

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